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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/nationwide-indiscretions-the-pncll-wcll-d2/#comment-3468</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 09:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well they make it to the final four every season so . . . scoreboard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well they make it to the final four every season so . . . scoreboard.</p>
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		<title>By: MCLA Fan &#124; Blog &#124; Nationwide Indiscretions: The PNCLL &#38; WCLL D2</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/nationwide-indiscretions-the-pncll-wcll-d2/#comment-2958</link>
		<dc:creator>MCLA Fan &#124; Blog &#124; Nationwide Indiscretions: The PNCLL &#38; WCLL D2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: juan_de_fucan_lax</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/nationwide-indiscretions-the-pncll-wcll-d2/#comment-2832</link>
		<dc:creator>juan_de_fucan_lax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whitman is a disgrace to the PNCLL.  How can this team not schedule any OOC games and pretend they belong in a national discussion?  They are living in the past, no one cares about them or their uppity, pretentious school/program.  Schedule some games and then we can talk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whitman is a disgrace to the PNCLL.  How can this team not schedule any OOC games and pretend they belong in a national discussion?  They are living in the past, no one cares about them or their uppity, pretentious school/program.  Schedule some games and then we can talk.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lax</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/nationwide-indiscretions-the-pncll-wcll-d2/#comment-2805</link>
		<dc:creator>The Lax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only time i include D1 games is when they are out-of-conference. In the case of WWU, both were in conference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only time i include D1 games is when they are out-of-conference. In the case of WWU, both were in conference.</p>
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		<title>By: wwulax15</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/nationwide-indiscretions-the-pncll-wcll-d2/#comment-2804</link>
		<dc:creator>wwulax15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if your going to include games vs D1 teams then Western Washington played Washington on 1-29 and won 11-6 and Simon Fraser on 2-6 and lost 18-3]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if your going to include games vs D1 teams then Western Washington played Washington on 1-29 and won 11-6 and Simon Fraser on 2-6 and lost 18-3</p>
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		<title>By: Crave </title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/nationwide-indiscretions-the-pncll-wcll-d2/#comment-2799</link>
		<dc:creator>Crave </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Updated amigo.  Again, good catch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Updated amigo.  Again, good catch.</p>
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		<title>By: surgerls</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/nationwide-indiscretions-the-pncll-wcll-d2/#comment-2798</link>
		<dc:creator>surgerls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[UC Santa Cruz did not lose to UC Irvine.... they lost to UC Davis by 1 please fix]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UC Santa Cruz did not lose to UC Irvine&#8230;. they lost to UC Davis by 1 please fix</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Brunelle</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/nationwide-indiscretions-the-pncll-wcll-d2/#comment-2797</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Brunelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey 5oh3, good catch. We went ahead and fixed the errors. The Lax has been working hard to cover each MCLA D2 conference, and I think those were just honest typos. Hope all is well in the 503.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey 5oh3, good catch. We went ahead and fixed the errors. The Lax has been working hard to cover each MCLA D2 conference, and I think those were just honest typos. Hope all is well in the 503.</p>
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		<title>By: 5oh3</title>
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		<dc:creator>5oh3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ummm...It&#039;s spelled Willamette, it&#039;s right there in the logo.  And so is their mascot Bearcats, NOT bobcats.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm&#8230;It&#39;s spelled Willamette, it&#39;s right there in the logo.  And so is their mascot Bearcats, NOT bobcats.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lax</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, I know(sort of) why Nevada ended up scheduling the D1 teams. They are, in effect, a D1 school themselves a la Alabama before this season. Fit all criteria for a D1 school, just playing down(Assumption. I remember 412 saying something along those lines. I could very well be wrong)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I know(sort of) why Nevada ended up scheduling the D1 teams. They are, in effect, a D1 school themselves a la Alabama before this season. Fit all criteria for a D1 school, just playing down(Assumption. I remember 412 saying something along those lines. I could very well be wrong)</p>
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		<title>By: The Lax</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A D2 team, in general, serves no purpose to either team. If the D1 team wins, it was expected. If the D2 team wins, it&#039;s an upset.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s why you don&#039;t see very many inter-divisional games. And now with the selection commitee, it magnifies those wins/losses.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Granted, I agree while-heartedly with both of your reasons. We as club laxers pay a heavy price, both financially and physically, just to play a game we love. Do most of us get any sort of glory or recognition? Hell no.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And the low-level team excuse doesnt fly either. I know that from personal experience. Before my freshman year at Charlotte, the team had won maybe 3 games in a season, at most. I&#039;m fairly sure that they won only 1 game the year before. Fast forward to the end of the season and we&#039;re 9-3, regular season SELC champs, runner-up in the SELC tournament, and one spot outside of an at-large trip to Dallas, TX, to play for the National Championship. So called &quot;Low-level&quot; teams are much more likely to drastically change overnight than the reverse. It doesn&#039;t take much. One taste of that success and everyone wants to stay at that level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m currently experiencing it once again as a player at UNCG.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m a little more disagreeing with #2. You don&#039;t learn anything in blowout losses. You go through the motions because you&#039;re gonna lose(i know exceptions exist, but they&#039;re rare). You learn far more in the close games. You&#039;re more emotionally invested. You play your best so you can beat your opposition.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are some exceptions to the D1vsD2 rule, though. I am totally fine with mid-level D1 teams competing with D2 schools. The Pitt vs GCC game at the beginning of the season is a great example of this(sorry, Pete. No offense). Grove City is a great team. Pitt is an average team. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But what&#039;s the perception from the collegelax.us user who has no knowledge of either team, other than their Divisional status? Pitt is D1, they lost to D2 GCC. That&#039;s an upset. That loss hurts the Pitt program much more than the loss to Buffalo, despite only losing by 1 to GCC.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The prospective MCLA laxer might see that loss and think &quot;Oh, they lost to a D2 school. They suck.&quot; Does that person end up playing there? Maybe, but he&#039;s already going in with an attitude of negativity.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The inverse is equally true for the GCC prospect.&quot;Oh sweet, we beat Pitt. We must be good.&quot;(which is actually the case this year. Expect to see them in Denver)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perfect example: Carnegie Mellon lost 3 games last Saturday by a total of 7 goals. I&#039;m almost 100% sure they learned more about their team that day than they will in the loss they&#039;ll get vs Pitt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enough with this novel of a reply. I think I&#039;ve covered what I needed to. If you need any clarification on anything, let me know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A D2 team, in general, serves no purpose to either team. If the D1 team wins, it was expected. If the D2 team wins, it&#39;s an upset.</p>
<p>That&#39;s why you don&#39;t see very many inter-divisional games. And now with the selection commitee, it magnifies those wins/losses.</p>
<p>Granted, I agree while-heartedly with both of your reasons. We as club laxers pay a heavy price, both financially and physically, just to play a game we love. Do most of us get any sort of glory or recognition? Hell no.</p>
<p>And the low-level team excuse doesnt fly either. I know that from personal experience. Before my freshman year at Charlotte, the team had won maybe 3 games in a season, at most. I&#39;m fairly sure that they won only 1 game the year before. Fast forward to the end of the season and we&#39;re 9-3, regular season SELC champs, runner-up in the SELC tournament, and one spot outside of an at-large trip to Dallas, TX, to play for the National Championship. So called &#8220;Low-level&#8221; teams are much more likely to drastically change overnight than the reverse. It doesn&#39;t take much. One taste of that success and everyone wants to stay at that level.</p>
<p>I&#39;m currently experiencing it once again as a player at UNCG.</p>
<p>I&#39;m a little more disagreeing with #2. You don&#39;t learn anything in blowout losses. You go through the motions because you&#39;re gonna lose(i know exceptions exist, but they&#39;re rare). You learn far more in the close games. You&#39;re more emotionally invested. You play your best so you can beat your opposition.</p>
<p>There are some exceptions to the D1vsD2 rule, though. I am totally fine with mid-level D1 teams competing with D2 schools. The Pitt vs GCC game at the beginning of the season is a great example of this(sorry, Pete. No offense). Grove City is a great team. Pitt is an average team. </p>
<p>But what&#39;s the perception from the collegelax.us user who has no knowledge of either team, other than their Divisional status? Pitt is D1, they lost to D2 GCC. That&#39;s an upset. That loss hurts the Pitt program much more than the loss to Buffalo, despite only losing by 1 to GCC.</p>
<p>The prospective MCLA laxer might see that loss and think &#8220;Oh, they lost to a D2 school. They suck.&#8221; Does that person end up playing there? Maybe, but he&#39;s already going in with an attitude of negativity.</p>
<p>The inverse is equally true for the GCC prospect.&#8221;Oh sweet, we beat Pitt. We must be good.&#8221;(which is actually the case this year. Expect to see them in Denver)</p>
<p>Perfect example: Carnegie Mellon lost 3 games last Saturday by a total of 7 goals. I&#39;m almost 100% sure they learned more about their team that day than they will in the loss they&#39;ll get vs Pitt.</p>
<p>Enough with this novel of a reply. I think I&#39;ve covered what I needed to. If you need any clarification on anything, let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: mBand</title>
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		<dc:creator>mBand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gonna take issue.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.  It does make a difference.  Playing a competitive game is more fun and better for morale and work ethics.&lt;br&gt;2.  You don&#039;t learn nearly as much from blowouts as from close losses.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not precisely sure how UNR stacks up against that D1 competition, but all 20-5 losses will do is curb effort and snuff out hope.  You have to walk before you can run.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gonna take issue.</p>
<p>1.  It does make a difference.  Playing a competitive game is more fun and better for morale and work ethics.<br />2.  You don&#39;t learn nearly as much from blowouts as from close losses.</p>
<p>I&#39;m not precisely sure how UNR stacks up against that D1 competition, but all 20-5 losses will do is curb effort and snuff out hope.  You have to walk before you can run.</p>
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		<title>By: FiveOh</title>
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		<dc:creator>FiveOh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to disagree when you say that scheduling so many D1 teams doesn&#039;t do you any good.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;#1, a game is a game. Kids sign up to play lax, and when you&#039;re a low-level team, probably not going to Denver, it makes no difference which division that game comes against.&lt;br&gt;#2, you improve by playing against better competition. Blowouts aren&#039;t fun, but they&#039;re a learning opportunity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree when you say that scheduling so many D1 teams doesn&#39;t do you any good.</p>
<p>#1, a game is a game. Kids sign up to play lax, and when you&#39;re a low-level team, probably not going to Denver, it makes no difference which division that game comes against.<br />#2, you improve by playing against better competition. Blowouts aren&#39;t fun, but they&#39;re a learning opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Nationwide Indiscretions: The PNCLL &#38; WCLL D2 - Lacrosse All Stars &#124; College Sports Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nationwide Indiscretions: The PNCLL &#38; WCLL D2 - Lacrosse All Stars &#124; College Sports Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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