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		<title>By: College Lacrosse Championship Weekend Recap &#124; Lacrosse All Stars</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-honest-truth-about-zone-defense-in-lacrosse/#comment-18982</link>
		<dc:creator>College Lacrosse Championship Weekend Recap &#124; Lacrosse All Stars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 21:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to set his feet for many of the shots he faced.  Good team D will do that!  Loyola also used some zone defense as well, and now it has been fully proven FALSE that &#8220;Division 1 offenses can easily tear [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to set his feet for many of the shots he faced.  Good team D will do that!  Loyola also used some zone defense as well, and now it has been fully proven FALSE that &#8220;Division 1 offenses can easily tear [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Luscious Dick Tacoma</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-honest-truth-about-zone-defense-in-lacrosse/#comment-13354</link>
		<dc:creator>Luscious Dick Tacoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will was agreeing, and further giving evidence, that athleticism is required to play zone.  It&#039;s you who should do a better job with the reading.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will was agreeing, and further giving evidence, that athleticism is required to play zone.  It&#8217;s you who should do a better job with the reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Vancorlax</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-honest-truth-about-zone-defense-in-lacrosse/#comment-13349</link>
		<dc:creator>Vancorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Com&#039;on Will try and do a better job reading will you. He wrote: (pay attention to the last 3 words)

 Zone defense is great when you have smart, but less athletic players: Not really true. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Com&#8217;on Will try and do a better job reading will you. He wrote: (pay attention to the last 3 words)</p>
<p> Zone defense is great when you have smart, but less athletic players: Not really true. </p>
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		<title>By: Gunnergordo</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-honest-truth-about-zone-defense-in-lacrosse/#comment-12194</link>
		<dc:creator>Gunnergordo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Connor I&#039;m buying you a beer if we ever meet! Excellent work man.

 I had the privilege to run this same type of zone when I was in high school from a very non traditional defensive coach. I remember the other coaches not even understanding what he was teaching us in practice and questioning his logic. They where angry with him for disrupting the pace of practice and the slow stand around walk throughs over and over again. I should mention that we had run a man to man and a &quot;basic&quot; zone before this. Like UVA this past year we made a switch to this mid season. We came in everyday over the Easter break except Sunday to learn how to implement this properly. It took a whole week+ to get it into our heads and we were still refining it til the end of the season. Unlike UVA we made this switch not out of necessity, but as an upgrade. You see our defensive coach saw how rapidly our goalie was developing and how astonishing save percentage was for shots outside of 10 yards(keep in mind high school ball). He also saw how fast learners we where and had confidence in us to learn it. But it was the COACH who really made it happen. He was an excellent communicator and knew how to talk to young men to get our brains engaged and motivate us. 

From the game we implemented it in we went undefeated for the rest of the season until the championship game which we lost by 2 goals. We noticed a 50% or greater decrease in goals against us from running this type of dee. It should be noted that this particular coach just happens to be Doug Carl,  VP of Eligibility for the Men&#039;s Collegiate Lacrosse Association(MCLA). I see my old Dee coach has come a long way from his time spent on a swampy youth club lax field in the mid 90&#039;s. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connor I&#8217;m buying you a beer if we ever meet! Excellent work man.</p>
<p> I had the privilege to run this same type of zone when I was in high school from a very non traditional defensive coach. I remember the other coaches not even understanding what he was teaching us in practice and questioning his logic. They where angry with him for disrupting the pace of practice and the slow stand around walk throughs over and over again. I should mention that we had run a man to man and a &#8220;basic&#8221; zone before this. Like UVA this past year we made a switch to this mid season. We came in everyday over the Easter break except Sunday to learn how to implement this properly. It took a whole week+ to get it into our heads and we were still refining it til the end of the season. Unlike UVA we made this switch not out of necessity, but as an upgrade. You see our defensive coach saw how rapidly our goalie was developing and how astonishing save percentage was for shots outside of 10 yards(keep in mind high school ball). He also saw how fast learners we where and had confidence in us to learn it. But it was the COACH who really made it happen. He was an excellent communicator and knew how to talk to young men to get our brains engaged and motivate us. </p>
<p>From the game we implemented it in we went undefeated for the rest of the season until the championship game which we lost by 2 goals. We noticed a 50% or greater decrease in goals against us from running this type of dee. It should be noted that this particular coach just happens to be Doug Carl,  VP of Eligibility for the Men&#8217;s Collegiate Lacrosse Association(MCLA). I see my old Dee coach has come a long way from his time spent on a swampy youth club lax field in the mid 90&#8242;s. </p>
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		<title>By: Humpday’s Happenings &#38; Hyperlinks 4/20/11 - Drofdarb Sports</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-honest-truth-about-zone-defense-in-lacrosse/#comment-5614</link>
		<dc:creator>Humpday’s Happenings &#38; Hyperlinks 4/20/11 - Drofdarb Sports</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 14:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] about zone defense&#8217;s place in lacrosse &#8211; Conner Wilson over at LAS gives us the honest truth about zone defense in lacrosse. It&#8217;s a good read for any of you laxers out [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about zone defense&#8217;s place in lacrosse &#8211; Conner Wilson over at LAS gives us the honest truth about zone defense in lacrosse. It&#8217;s a good read for any of you laxers out [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ConnorWilsonLAS</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-honest-truth-about-zone-defense-in-lacrosse/#comment-9784</link>
		<dc:creator>ConnorWilsonLAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[some great points!  all-around players seem less and less common in college AND even in HS.  I personally think more players will be coached differently as teams and HCoaches realize specialization only gets you so far!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some great points!  all-around players seem less and less common in college AND even in HS.  I personally think more players will be coached differently as teams and HCoaches realize specialization only gets you so far!</p>
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		<title>By: Chazz Woodson</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-honest-truth-about-zone-defense-in-lacrosse/#comment-9775</link>
		<dc:creator>Chazz Woodson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[btw ... that also applies (as I mentioned briefly) the other way around.  There are kids that can put the ball in the net, but NEVER learn to play defense in high school.  So when they get to college, they have to get off the field as soon as the ball is lost, or there&#039;s probably going to be a goal as a result of something that they did/n&#039;t do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw &#8230; that also applies (as I mentioned briefly) the other way around.  There are kids that can put the ball in the net, but NEVER learn to play defense in high school.  So when they get to college, they have to get off the field as soon as the ball is lost, or there&#8217;s probably going to be a goal as a result of something that they did/n&#8217;t do.</p>
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		<title>By: Chazz Woodson</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-honest-truth-about-zone-defense-in-lacrosse/#comment-9773</link>
		<dc:creator>Chazz Woodson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lots of thoughts on this, especially, since our base defense in HS was a zone.  However, we were far from timid, and coached (in my humble opinion) by two of the best coaches around.  Connor, you are completely right about the athleticism of the athletes playing.  A truly affective zone pressures the ball - to an established perimeter - and forces each player to move in sync.  &quot;Zone&quot; means you are playing good defense in whichever &quot;zone&quot; that you happen to be in at any particular time during the posession.  It doesn&#039;t mean that you&#039;re sitting back waiting for things to happen.  You also MUST be able to play good man-to-man defense in order to be able to play a zone defense.  That&#039;s both on and off ball.  If you can&#039;t you are going to get beat for goals all over the place.

As for the slow down of the game ... yes, sticks have plenty to do with that (which I noticed after watching the 1st half of Quint and Petro vs Gait and Gait in the &#039;89 NCAA Championship (http://laxunation.com/2011/04/1989-national-championship-syracuse-vs-hopkins).  The ball is dislodged a lot less frequently these days.  But the biggest difference is still the death of the 2 way middie.  There are now so many more great athletes playing lacrosse.  Unfortunately, we now take a an athlete in high school that&#039;s a 6&#039;1 190, fast, and strong, and say you&#039;ll make a great defensive middie.  And he does.  And he&#039;s a shut down guy, with a deeeecent stick.  Well, a college takes a chance on said player and thinking the exact same thing.  Great.  Shuts people down, but is either a liability on offense, or just not as good as the 5&#039;10 175 kid that can pick corners (but usually cannot play a lick of defense).  There are a lot less clean breaks, etc. these days.  So now we have to waste time getting him off the field.  Even once the ball is settled, you always see the cat and mouse game with the pole/d middie and the offensive middie.  Between that and the general substituting, the game is tremendously slower.

This is also the reason you see so many players changing positions once they get to the collegiate level.  There are lots of kids that come into college, having been great scorers at the HS level.  All of a sudden, there are plenty of other players that can handle and shoot and go by somebody, leaving said player as the odd man out.  But because he&#039;s too much of an athlete to not be on the field, he gets turned into a d middie.  Happens to attackmen and middies.  Same thing from college to pro.

That was a lot longer than I anticipated, so I&#039;ll stop.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of thoughts on this, especially, since our base defense in HS was a zone.  However, we were far from timid, and coached (in my humble opinion) by two of the best coaches around.  Connor, you are completely right about the athleticism of the athletes playing.  A truly affective zone pressures the ball &#8211; to an established perimeter &#8211; and forces each player to move in sync.  &#8220;Zone&#8221; means you are playing good defense in whichever &#8220;zone&#8221; that you happen to be in at any particular time during the posession.  It doesn&#8217;t mean that you&#8217;re sitting back waiting for things to happen.  You also MUST be able to play good man-to-man defense in order to be able to play a zone defense.  That&#8217;s both on and off ball.  If you can&#8217;t you are going to get beat for goals all over the place.</p>
<p>As for the slow down of the game &#8230; yes, sticks have plenty to do with that (which I noticed after watching the 1st half of Quint and Petro vs Gait and Gait in the &#8217;89 NCAA Championship (<a href="http://laxunation.com/2011/04/1989-national-championship-syracuse-vs-hopkins" rel="nofollow">http://laxunation.com/2011/04/1989-national-championship-syracuse-vs-hopkins</a>).  The ball is dislodged a lot less frequently these days.  But the biggest difference is still the death of the 2 way middie.  There are now so many more great athletes playing lacrosse.  Unfortunately, we now take a an athlete in high school that&#8217;s a 6&#8217;1 190, fast, and strong, and say you&#8217;ll make a great defensive middie.  And he does.  And he&#8217;s a shut down guy, with a deeeecent stick.  Well, a college takes a chance on said player and thinking the exact same thing.  Great.  Shuts people down, but is either a liability on offense, or just not as good as the 5&#8217;10 175 kid that can pick corners (but usually cannot play a lick of defense).  There are a lot less clean breaks, etc. these days.  So now we have to waste time getting him off the field.  Even once the ball is settled, you always see the cat and mouse game with the pole/d middie and the offensive middie.  Between that and the general substituting, the game is tremendously slower.</p>
<p>This is also the reason you see so many players changing positions once they get to the collegiate level.  There are lots of kids that come into college, having been great scorers at the HS level.  All of a sudden, there are plenty of other players that can handle and shoot and go by somebody, leaving said player as the odd man out.  But because he&#8217;s too much of an athlete to not be on the field, he gets turned into a d middie.  Happens to attackmen and middies.  Same thing from college to pro.</p>
<p>That was a lot longer than I anticipated, so I&#8217;ll stop.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First off, I really enjoy articles like this that analyze the game. Usually Quint is the only one doing these, so it&#039;s nice to get a different viewpoint. That said, I don&#039;t totally agree with some of the points above. 1) If you have smart AND athletic players you can run a good man to man defense, as well as a good zone. The zone allows you to compensate for maybe one or two guys within your defensive group who might be outmatched by the guy they&#039;re playing. Smart, less athletic guys can be great crease guys in a zone and they can still play a role even if they aren&#039;t the best one on one d-man. 2) Playing zone doesn&#039;t slow the game down necessarily, but it certainly changes the mindset at both ends of the field. If my defense is running zone, my offense might not see the ball for 2-3 minutes. If we don&#039;t get a clean break out of our defensive end, do you think I want my guys rushing to shoot as quick as possible? No thanks. This comes into play especially if you&#039;re not having a great day at the face-off x. If I&#039;m only going to get 4-5 possessions in a quarter because my zone is holding strong for a few minutes at a time, you&#039;re damn right we&#039;re going to be more deliberate when the ball is with our offense. I guess that&#039;s it. I also don&#039;t think Quint was actually suggesting that simply moving the ball around will beat a zone, but that&#039;s just me. Like I said, I really enjoy analytical articles like this one, whether I fully agree with you or not. Keep on writing....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I really enjoy articles like this that analyze the game. Usually Quint is the only one doing these, so it&#8217;s nice to get a different viewpoint. That said, I don&#8217;t totally agree with some of the points above. 1) If you have smart AND athletic players you can run a good man to man defense, as well as a good zone. The zone allows you to compensate for maybe one or two guys within your defensive group who might be outmatched by the guy they&#8217;re playing. Smart, less athletic guys can be great crease guys in a zone and they can still play a role even if they aren&#8217;t the best one on one d-man. 2) Playing zone doesn&#8217;t slow the game down necessarily, but it certainly changes the mindset at both ends of the field. If my defense is running zone, my offense might not see the ball for 2-3 minutes. If we don&#8217;t get a clean break out of our defensive end, do you think I want my guys rushing to shoot as quick as possible? No thanks. This comes into play especially if you&#8217;re not having a great day at the face-off x. If I&#8217;m only going to get 4-5 possessions in a quarter because my zone is holding strong for a few minutes at a time, you&#8217;re damn right we&#8217;re going to be more deliberate when the ball is with our offense. I guess that&#8217;s it. I also don&#8217;t think Quint was actually suggesting that simply moving the ball around will beat a zone, but that&#8217;s just me. Like I said, I really enjoy analytical articles like this one, whether I fully agree with you or not. Keep on writing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-honest-truth-about-zone-defense-in-lacrosse/#comment-9699</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article.  
I support anything that points out Quint Kessenich&#039;s nincompoopery.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.<br />
I support anything that points out Quint Kessenich&#8217;s nincompoopery.   </p>
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		<title>By: Will Patton</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-honest-truth-about-zone-defense-in-lacrosse/#comment-9693</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Patton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 01:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Zone defense is great when you have smart, but less athletic players&quot;

This is soooooo true and I can&#039;t thank you enough for pointing it out!  As a coach teaching a zone, the biggest problem you often see is kids believe the zone allows them to conserve energy and stay in one spot, when in actuality a zone forces the individual players to work harder both mentally and physically, playing defense in a more &quot;offensive&quot; fashion.

Great stuff Connor!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Zone defense is great when you have smart, but less athletic players&#8221;</p>
<p>This is soooooo true and I can&#8217;t thank you enough for pointing it out!  As a coach teaching a zone, the biggest problem you often see is kids believe the zone allows them to conserve energy and stay in one spot, when in actuality a zone forces the individual players to work harder both mentally and physically, playing defense in a more &#8220;offensive&#8221; fashion.</p>
<p>Great stuff Connor!</p>
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		<title>By: Time Zone Battle - 412 Lax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Time Zone Battle - 412 Lax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Connor Wilson discusses the zone defense in a far more impressive manner than Quint could ever fathom [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Connor Wilson discusses the zone defense in a far more impressive manner than Quint could ever fathom [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Connor Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connor Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 17:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[great point on the two way mids especially!

If we allow &quot;O mids&quot; to get off, and don&#039;t force them to play D, teams will bring in their D specialists, who know the zone well.  By keeping O mids on who might not be as versed in it, a team could see success!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great point on the two way mids especially!</p>
<p>If we allow &#8220;O mids&#8221; to get off, and don&#8217;t force them to play D, teams will bring in their D specialists, who know the zone well.  By keeping O mids on who might not be as versed in it, a team could see success!</p>
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		<title>By: bhsvideodad</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-honest-truth-about-zone-defense-in-lacrosse/#comment-9691</link>
		<dc:creator>bhsvideodad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing like taking the big ones on-head on, Quint, Paul Rabbi, coach Starsia etc.  At least from the article I can rationalize my difficulty in recognizing a zone.  I tend to think of a zone as a packed in defense, but obviously it is much more that that when played well.  At the MCLA level, I have seen several occasions, when the defensive team tries to switch into a zone and gets burned before they are reorganized.

It seems to me that one of the things slowing down the game is switching almost all the midfield between defense and offense.  Clear the ball, call yellow and wait as players shuffle in an out.

Great article, keep them coming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing like taking the big ones on-head on, Quint, Paul Rabbi, coach Starsia etc.  At least from the article I can rationalize my difficulty in recognizing a zone.  I tend to think of a zone as a packed in defense, but obviously it is much more that that when played well.  At the MCLA level, I have seen several occasions, when the defensive team tries to switch into a zone and gets burned before they are reorganized.</p>
<p>It seems to me that one of the things slowing down the game is switching almost all the midfield between defense and offense.  Clear the ball, call yellow and wait as players shuffle in an out.</p>
<p>Great article, keep them coming.</p>
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