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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-many-cases-against-hazing/#comment-14605</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You write this article like it&#039;s news. For the life of me, I cannot imagine why anyone would let themselves be hazed. When I was a teen no one and I mean NO ONE told me what to do or when but my Mother and myself.  I had no desire to belong to a group, but rather enjoyed being a total individual. There are deep psychological issues on both sides. Your points are all true especially the &#039;chain of respect&#039;  LOL what a laugh. If somebody wants respect let them earn it by showing respect. I also think there is an erotic aspect to hazing which again, goes very deep. If anyone even suggested I should be hazed I&#039;d laugh at them. It&#039;s pure lunacy. Sadly, police forces and the military also subscribe to this insanity]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You write this article like it&#8217;s news. For the life of me, I cannot imagine why anyone would let themselves be hazed. When I was a teen no one and I mean NO ONE told me what to do or when but my Mother and myself.  I had no desire to belong to a group, but rather enjoyed being a total individual. There are deep psychological issues on both sides. Your points are all true especially the &#8216;chain of respect&#8217;  LOL what a laugh. If somebody wants respect let them earn it by showing respect. I also think there is an erotic aspect to hazing which again, goes very deep. If anyone even suggested I should be hazed I&#8217;d laugh at them. It&#8217;s pure lunacy. Sadly, police forces and the military also subscribe to this insanity</p>
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		<title>By: dtj</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-many-cases-against-hazing/#comment-14380</link>
		<dc:creator>dtj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frequently hazing isn&#039;t meted out equally. It all depends on team dynamics, but often it isn&#039;t the studs that get the worse treatment, its the bubble or lower end player that has potential. Typically it has overtones from the broader social context, than the team specific context. More succinctly, the more popular kids are less likely to get hazed than the less popular kids.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frequently hazing isn&#8217;t meted out equally. It all depends on team dynamics, but often it isn&#8217;t the studs that get the worse treatment, its the bubble or lower end player that has potential. Typically it has overtones from the broader social context, than the team specific context. More succinctly, the more popular kids are less likely to get hazed than the less popular kids.</p>
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		<title>By: KrazyKat</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-many-cases-against-hazing/#comment-14378</link>
		<dc:creator>KrazyKat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 05:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does a freshman earning his spot through merit on the lax field have to do with carrying ball buckets or being a slave to those deemed better to do their class seniority?  The entitled become the upperclassmen due only to seniority and not merit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does a freshman earning his spot through merit on the lax field have to do with carrying ball buckets or being a slave to those deemed better to do their class seniority?  The entitled become the upperclassmen due only to seniority and not merit.</p>
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		<title>By: KrazyKat</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-many-cases-against-hazing/#comment-14377</link>
		<dc:creator>KrazyKat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 05:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.classicshorts.com/stories/lotry.html

What happens when no one steps up to challenge twisted time honored traditions...]]></description>
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<p>What happens when no one steps up to challenge twisted time honored traditions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: brolaxer11</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-many-cases-against-hazing/#comment-14360</link>
		<dc:creator>brolaxer11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As captain of my team last year, I took the opportunity to do some extracurricular team building that turned quickly into hazing. I feel terrible for the events that transpired, still getting grief for it to this day. All I wanted was to create the tightly knit community in my team that I never experienced as an underclassman. I was very fortunate no one got seriously hurt nor did the school take any action as this hazing incident was both unprecidented and the school doesn&#039;t really support the team to begin with. Of course now I never subject any player to anything I don&#039;t already contribute to, as in taking goals out and managing equipment, and encourage and support the team as much as I can, trying to be a positive and inspirational leader. 

Looking back, I would have expected our team to fall divided and distant under the frustration of a disappointing season, yet I remain good friends with the entire team and among those hazed even moreso from what I have seen. Perhaps there could have been some silver lining in all this? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As captain of my team last year, I took the opportunity to do some extracurricular team building that turned quickly into hazing. I feel terrible for the events that transpired, still getting grief for it to this day. All I wanted was to create the tightly knit community in my team that I never experienced as an underclassman. I was very fortunate no one got seriously hurt nor did the school take any action as this hazing incident was both unprecidented and the school doesn&#8217;t really support the team to begin with. Of course now I never subject any player to anything I don&#8217;t already contribute to, as in taking goals out and managing equipment, and encourage and support the team as much as I can, trying to be a positive and inspirational leader. </p>
<p>Looking back, I would have expected our team to fall divided and distant under the frustration of a disappointing season, yet I remain good friends with the entire team and among those hazed even moreso from what I have seen. Perhaps there could have been some silver lining in all this? </p>
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		<title>By: Swank Lax</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-many-cases-against-hazing/#comment-14358</link>
		<dc:creator>Swank Lax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My problem with the hazing issue is that athletes are held to a different standard than non-athletes are when dealing with interactions between members of a group that are heterogeneous in their class-year composition. This can lead to schools unjustly identifying events or actions as hazing simply because they occur with athletes. Conversely, groups that are not varsity teams are given far greater latitude in that no one considers their actions improper despite the fact that if a varsity team did what they did, they would unquestionably be accused of hazing. In my opinion, we are so hypersensitive to hazing that we tend to go too far in our attempts to eliminate it.

I agree that portraying hazing as a necessary evil of team-building is not only inaccurate but detracts from what it really takes to build a cohesive group. Admittedly, every team needs a hierarchy that allows certain team leaders to dictate how the team should be run, but such a culture should be developed through mutual respect. While establishing such a mutual respect is not an instantaneous process, attempting to use hazing as a shortcut to this end is lazy and just as likely to backfire on the team as it is to succeed. That said, bringing out the balls, setting up the goals and handling some of the little things around the team are perfectly acceptable tasks to assign to freshmen because it helps to teach the freshmen the importance of taking care of the little things and gives them a sense of responsibility. Personally, I think I benefited from having to do these kind of things as a freshman and would encourage the freshmen out there to embrace these kinds of tasks. A team relies on everyone to fill a certain role and completing one of these tasks can certainly be part of that role.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with the hazing issue is that athletes are held to a different standard than non-athletes are when dealing with interactions between members of a group that are heterogeneous in their class-year composition. This can lead to schools unjustly identifying events or actions as hazing simply because they occur with athletes. Conversely, groups that are not varsity teams are given far greater latitude in that no one considers their actions improper despite the fact that if a varsity team did what they did, they would unquestionably be accused of hazing. In my opinion, we are so hypersensitive to hazing that we tend to go too far in our attempts to eliminate it.</p>
<p>I agree that portraying hazing as a necessary evil of team-building is not only inaccurate but detracts from what it really takes to build a cohesive group. Admittedly, every team needs a hierarchy that allows certain team leaders to dictate how the team should be run, but such a culture should be developed through mutual respect. While establishing such a mutual respect is not an instantaneous process, attempting to use hazing as a shortcut to this end is lazy and just as likely to backfire on the team as it is to succeed. That said, bringing out the balls, setting up the goals and handling some of the little things around the team are perfectly acceptable tasks to assign to freshmen because it helps to teach the freshmen the importance of taking care of the little things and gives them a sense of responsibility. Personally, I think I benefited from having to do these kind of things as a freshman and would encourage the freshmen out there to embrace these kinds of tasks. A team relies on everyone to fill a certain role and completing one of these tasks can certainly be part of that role.</p>
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		<title>By: Tucker</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-many-cases-against-hazing/#comment-14357</link>
		<dc:creator>Tucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m shocked and saddened by the tragedy at Florida A&amp;M. My prayers and thoughts go out to the family of Robert Champion.

Personally I think this article is a bit much. There is a difference between &#039;freshmen duties&#039; (bringing the ball bucket, cones, whiteboard, etc to practice) and hazing. I do believe in paying your dues as a Freshman. I don&#039;t think that includes being mentally and physically tortured, but I think it is reasonable to require freshman to have these additional duties. 

As a freshman if you become suicidal over taking the ball bucket to practice, what are you going to do later in life when you boss makes you work overtime during your first year with the company? Freshman have to earn their spot, and earning it entails hard work and additional duties. There is an increasing sense of entitlement and softness growing in America. These are the type of people that probably support every kid getting a trophy or outlawing dodgeball in grade school.

I agree with you that hazing is wrong, but please don&#039;t lump whatever horrible acts produced the death of Mr. Champion and freshman duties in the same category. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m shocked and saddened by the tragedy at Florida A&amp;M. My prayers and thoughts go out to the family of Robert Champion.</p>
<p>Personally I think this article is a bit much. There is a difference between &#8216;freshmen duties&#8217; (bringing the ball bucket, cones, whiteboard, etc to practice) and hazing. I do believe in paying your dues as a Freshman. I don&#8217;t think that includes being mentally and physically tortured, but I think it is reasonable to require freshman to have these additional duties. </p>
<p>As a freshman if you become suicidal over taking the ball bucket to practice, what are you going to do later in life when you boss makes you work overtime during your first year with the company? Freshman have to earn their spot, and earning it entails hard work and additional duties. There is an increasing sense of entitlement and softness growing in America. These are the type of people that probably support every kid getting a trophy or outlawing dodgeball in grade school.</p>
<p>I agree with you that hazing is wrong, but please don&#8217;t lump whatever horrible acts produced the death of Mr. Champion and freshman duties in the same category. </p>
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		<title>By: CarlosSpiceyweiner</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-many-cases-against-hazing/#comment-14355</link>
		<dc:creator>CarlosSpiceyweiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hazing and team building are two different things, and you hit them both on the head.  Someone forcing me to do something (against my will or not) doesn&#039;t ever lead me to gain more respect for them, often cases it results in less.  As you said, hazing as a &quot;team building&quot; exercise is absolute turdfarts.  Instead of forcing the younger guys to do something dumb as &quot;team building&quot;, go out in the community and work on a public works project as a team.  Anythign along those lines are real team building, working together towards a common goal, and together realizing what a true team can accomplish.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hazing and team building are two different things, and you hit them both on the head.  Someone forcing me to do something (against my will or not) doesn&#8217;t ever lead me to gain more respect for them, often cases it results in less.  As you said, hazing as a &#8220;team building&#8221; exercise is absolute turdfarts.  Instead of forcing the younger guys to do something dumb as &#8220;team building&#8221;, go out in the community and work on a public works project as a team.  Anythign along those lines are real team building, working together towards a common goal, and together realizing what a true team can accomplish.</p>
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		<title>By: G Dewire</title>
		<link>http://laxallstars.com/the-many-cases-against-hazing/#comment-14354</link>
		<dc:creator>G Dewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i completely agree with you about hazing but i have heard of events that truly harmed no one and only consisted of the new players on the team to attempt to work together to find a brick. I agree with the sentiment about alcohol and other harmful based hazing but i feel like the rules today don&#039;t allow anything that could be harmless or even not actually hazing to be banned.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i completely agree with you about hazing but i have heard of events that truly harmed no one and only consisted of the new players on the team to attempt to work together to find a brick. I agree with the sentiment about alcohol and other harmful based hazing but i feel like the rules today don&#8217;t allow anything that could be harmless or even not actually hazing to be banned.  </p>
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		<title>By: AustinGullberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinGullberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can understand something to show unity in a team, but it should be a choice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand something to show unity in a team, but it should be a choice.</p>
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