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Good Rules And New Field Lines: Are They Better Than A Shot Clock?

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The end of Cuse - Army would have been different with a shot clock.

As we predicted in our weekend recap, the Notre Dame – Penn State 4-3 OT game precipitated a small outburst of calls for the shot clock.  I don’t love an argument based on just a couple of games (or just one game!) but I can see the point there on some level.  8 stall warnings against one team does seem excessive, but also clearly not that effective.  But is the shot clock the only answer to the issue of slow-down or low-scoring lacrosse (the two are not always the same)?

Or is there another, simpler solution out there?

Now I’m not pro or antishot clock.  I definitely see some of the benefits, and I can easily see how improper implementation could result in new problems, or how cost can be factored in to the decision.  I’m conservative on the issue, but not sold 100% either way.

Syracuse vs. Army men's lacrosse 29

The end of Cuse - Army would have been different with a shot clock.

The slowing down of the game is seen as a problem by many, even though it’s long been a part of the game.  New rules have been created over the years to keep the game flowing, but do we really need to go to a shot clock in the next iteration?  In the past you could put 6 poles on the field, now you can’t.  This was done to create more scoring chances.  There used to be no clearing time limit.  Now there is and teams are forced to advance the ball.  The list goes on and on.

But NONE of those rules changed the game as drastically as adding a shot clock would.  So it’s worth it to see if there are other answers out there.

Here is one possible way to change the rules, without adding in more technology, clocks or costs:

Rule Change #1:

Once a team enters the offensive end, they have to be in possession of the ball inside the box, as they are forced to now by “touching it in”.  They can then move the ball outside the box to a teammate and sub their players.  However, once the offensive team enters the box for a SECOND time, with possession of the ball, the stall warning rules come into effect, meaning the offensive team must keep the ball in the box for the rest of their possession.

Rule Change #2:

The shape of the restraining box is changed. The restraining line would have to move towards midfield by 5 yards, creating a slightly larger box for possessions and dodging.

These two very simple rule changes could accomplish a couple of very important things.

First off, teams could no longer work the ball around 30 or 40 yards away from the cage during a possession without being harassed at all by the defense.  This makes routine plays more important, and the chance for takeaways much greater.  It also forces offensive players to be skilled, and not just athletic ball carriers.

Secondly, teams would still be able to hold the ball on long possessions, like they do now.  But they would have to do so in tighter spaces and on every single possession.  By forcing a team to get off a shot quickly, you open the door to having only athletic monsters on D, replacing many of the high IQ players of today.  The hard part on D isn’t staying with your guy for a minute or 45 seconds, it’s paying attention for 2 to 3 minutes as the other team runs their offense.

A third bonus is that you would see fewer pure athletes just pulling the ball out up top and dodging.  Honestly, the one on one dodge from up top is kind of boring lacrosse.  A team gets it around, moves the ball well, and then throws it up to a kid up top who dodges looking to shoot.  If he doesn’t have anything, rinse, repeat.  It’s safe lacrosse, but it’s boring to watch.  And too many teams rely on this offense these days, so I have no problem seeing it go the way of the Dodo.  Truly athletic and skilled players will still be able to get a good dodge in, as the restraining line has moved up, but the 15 yard run up to a dodge will be much less common.  That’s a good thing.

Finally, by not adding a shot clock, we can still see exciting endings to games where possessions are KEY, like Denver – OSU, or Army – Cuse.  Some of the best action in those games came at the end, when the winning teams had to keep it in the box, trying to weather the defensive storm.  As the seconds ticked down, each opportunity became more and more important, and you could feel the intensity ratcheting up a notch.  By using the rule changes I laid out above, we’d still get this type of action, but we wouldn’t have to wait for the refs to initiate the stall warning, because it would pop up right away.  In fact, we could even see intense end of game action in the first quarter if a team really wants to press on D.

One of the reasons that people often advocate for the shot clock is that refs are too varied in their implementation and interpretation on the topic of the stall warning.  I don’t think people give the refs enough credit here, but for the sake of argument, let’s say the pro-shot clock people are right, and the refs don’t need to make any more judgement calls.  Well my two rule changes work perfectly in that regard as well.  Once a player steps in the box for the second time, the stall warning goes into effect.  Simple, no judging required, no new clocks, and no new timers.

My two rule changes emphasize skill, the ability to control and possess the ball in tight spaces, while still allowing for long possessions.  These changes make the refs’ job easier, and take the burden of deciding when a team is stalling off their shoulders.  It could create a lot of transition, tough, extending defenses, and lots of pretty, action-filled goals.  It adds no new technology, doesn’t ask more of the refs, and keeps the game flowing, without putting somewhat arbitrary time barriers in the way.

Would my two rule changes make the sport of lacrosse a little different?  Sure they would.  But a shot clock would change the game a whole lot more.  You’d still get the dodges from up top, and teams might switch their personnel a little less, but overall I don’t think the shot clock is the way to go… at least not yet.  Lacrosse isn’t basketball, and we don’t need teams “forcing” shots.  But we do need the pressure to be on constantly, and by creating an instant stall warning, with a slightly larger box, it could help both aspects of the game thrive.

Here are some examples of how these new rules could impact the game:

– Team A clears the ball into their offensive end and touches the ball into the box. Team A player #1 passes the ball to player #2, who steps in the box and is met by a defender.  He is pushed out of the box.  Turnover the other way, fast whistle.

– Team A brings the ball down the field, and touches the box.  Moves the ball out of the box and then player #2 dodges into the box.  Player 2 passes the ball to a teammate, who is also inside the box.  Then player #2 steps outside the box without possession.  Team A retains possession. If the ball is passed back to player #2 while he is outside the restraining box, Team A loses possession.

– Team A brings the ball down the field, steps into the box, and keeps the ball in the box, moving it to X.  Team A subs a new player on at midfield.  The player at X throws the ball from X to the player up top at midfield.  Team A keeps the ball as this was their first pass outside the box.  When the midfield player steps back into the box or passes the ball into the box, it must stay in, or it will result in a turnover.

– Team A has the ball and the stall warning is on.  Team A shoots the ball, but it goes out along the sideline.  Team A is the closest to the ball.  Team A will start with the ball outside the box, but once they move it back into the box the stall warning goes back into effect, as this is viewed as a continuation of their earlier possession, but the ball had to put back in play.

– Team A has the ball and the stall warning is on.  Team A shoots the ball and misses with the ball going out on the end line.  Team A is closest to the ball.  Team A will start with the ball on the end line, and the stall warning will still be on.

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About the author

Connor Wilson

Connor is the Publisher of LacrosseAllStars.com. He lives in Brooklyn with his better half, continues to play and coach both box and field lacrosse in NYC as much as possible, and covers the great game that is lacrosse full-time. He spends his spare time stringing sticks and watching Futurama.

12 Comments

  • Interesting take on the problem.  I like the first idea more then the second.  However I think we need to come at this from a different angle.  As a defender I think the problem lies more in the defensive end than the offensive end.  If you are down in a game, and OSU is locked in the box, where is the real pressure Denver?  Not token pressure from two defender that are scared of getting beat.  But actually an attempt to take the ball away with a real “beat a guys’s arm numb” double team.

    Nobody throws any checks anymore.  What’s the point of having a bunch of 6’4″ defenseman with excellent footwork and proper positioning if they run around with a cocked stick for 60 minutes and do nothing but push a guy amd lift 30 seconds too late.  If the team is stalling, you need to take a chance and go out and aggressively get the ball.  Sure you might give up a goal.  But you are already losing anyways.

    We should stop trying to punish offensive players and coaches.  We should start punishing boring defenders and defensive coaches.  If you can’t recruit 3 athletic defenseman you and your staff are doing a horrible job, and should convert those 3rd line freshman you aren’t playing and go get the damn ball.

    I also like the idea of actually calling the crosscheck hold again.  Read that on IL a bit back.

    • The OSU game is a great example of how the stalling rule just doesn’t work.  OSU actually seemed to slow down more after the stall was put on.  DU didn’t put on any real pressure until it was too late.  
      I think part of the problem is how hard it is to take the ball away from someone now.  The 2010 rule changes for sticks were a step in the right direction, but it’s really hard to take the ball away from someone in todays game, especially if they are not trying to score and just killing time.  Part of it is stick technology, part of it is we are better at stringing.    
      One idea I’ve posted before, after the stall is put in place, you can’t go behind the goal, need to keep it above goal line extended.  (no need for a new line, everyone knows where that line is.)    

      •  I think one of the big issues with DU-OSU was how young Denver’s defense is. They had 2 freshman starting in their first actual NCAA game and they didn’t seem to be playing aggressively at all. But I do recognize that the stall warning did slow OSU down even more and combined with Denver’s D really slowed down what could have been a much better game.

  • I don’t know if I am sold yet, but this presents a much better alternative than the shot clock. I do like having the close quarter style play, it almost reminds me of profession hockey–the team with possession is forced to make quick passes in close quarters which demands great skill if any team wishes to maintain possession. At the same time, this could generate a lot of turnovers resulting in fast-breaks and ultimately high scores. Not a bad rule change. It would be nice to see how this works on a small scale before it was considered for anything like College Lax. 
     

    •  The calling of a stall warning has no real definition; its very arbitrary. I think the implement of a shot clock once a stall warning is called would put a lot of pressure on the refs in tense 4th quarter moments. It makes the stall warning a more powerful call.

  • I don’t like this angle.  Too confusing for new fans.  We need to simplify, not make it more complex or foreign looking to potential fans of the game.  I also don’t see this creating more of an up and down game, which is what people seem to want.  I’m not sure a shot clock does that either, but at least it’s impossible to stall with a clock.  Without one there is nothing holding teams back from sitting in a corner and holding the ball except a pressure defense, and most coaches won’t pressure because they’re afraid of what will happen.  There are three possible results from pressure defense, and two of them are bad.  Turnover (good), penalty from aggressive checks (bad), easy scoring opportunity from being over-extended or off a scramble with the ball on the ground (bad).  D1 coaches typically don’t like those odds, and with careers on the line I don’t see them playing it any way but safe.

  • The economic side of this could, for some schools, have more impact than a requirement to purchase a shot clock system. Many NCAA lacrosse schools with field turf have their lines permanently sewn into the turf.  Replacing, removing, or changing sewn in lines in expensive and the field will often never look the same since you are introducing new sections of turf  that have not had the same amount of exposure to the sun and will never match the color shade of the majority of the field.

  • I agree with notaBro <— haha. Although the rules in the article are enticing ideas to people who have been around lacrosse a long time, they would surely confuse new spectators. I'm tired of hearing my parents complaining about how they don't understand the rules and how the announcers for college games constantly have to explain so many rules because so little people actually understand them. And if people don't understand rules, they're not going to like the sport as much. Isn't expansion of the sport the whole point of these rule changes? I think a long shot clock that doesn't play a HUGE factor in the normal game play (say 60 seconds) would be a good idea. I think the touch up rules should stay how they are, too. Even though the touch up and repeat process gives an opportunity for "pure athletes" to give their go at dodging over and over, so much of the game is so skill-based already that these rules provides a good balance. A balance between skilled/smart stick handlers and grinding athletic machines, that is.

  • Maybe make a rule where if a team accumulates 3 stall warnings, then on the third call of a stall a procedure would be called and a turnover rewarded to the non-offending team.

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